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Anyone doing this? (I'm looking in your direction, Chips, Fulcher & CJ!)

I am, but after having done nothing since Boxing Day (much to the chief masseur's chagrin) I am not expecting much!

I could well be doing this Davey
You should manage a sub 40 after margam park run
Me, I'm still trying to get sub 50 for 10k

I hope so, but am a bit out of condition.

Will probably train up to the event and just train through it. i.e. no skimping on the saturday ride!

I'm hoping to do it Davey, but i'm injured at the moment, i've torn a ligament in my ankle so i'm only on the bike at the moment.

What a load of whingers !!!
Anyone reading this thread would think you are a bunch of cyclists !!!!

I'll be there ... and CJ too !

planning to run to the race via top road to Pontrydyfen. Anyone one want to keep me company ?

If you are going to do this Anthony? Dont forget to send of your entry form! you cant use that excuse again.

Anthony, I would join you on the run to rhe race but I like to have a lay in on Sunday and hav'nt got two hours free.

Anthony Vallario wrote

What a load of whingers !!!
Anyone reading this thread would think you are a bunch of cyclists !!!!

I'll be there ... and CJ too !

planning to run to the race via top road to Pontrydyfen. Anyone one want to keep me company ?

Ummm - no! I'm not doing any more running than is strictly necessary.

I've already booked myself in with jugs to have my legs put back together on Monday after the race.

Port talbot duathlon club,nice ring to it!,so will you bi-peds be attending the Port talbot wheelers CYCLING club Sunday club RIDE after the Dickie burton.Brings to mind the words,CYCLING,CLUB and WEBSITE OH!and the words CLUB,RIDE and DISRUPTION.

Kevin

Your objections are noted and I will take them to the next meeting of the website comittee
But in the meantime .....
All the people posting on the thread are members of the Port Talbot Wheelers ( or were until Dec. 31st ! ).

This ain't a personal slight Anthony,but I think discussing other sporting activities other than cycling on a cycling club website and in turn disrupting an up and coming club ride(which as you know has a poor enough turn out on the best of days) shouldn't be happening. In saying all that I am keen to hear about peoples sporting acheivements outside the cycling fraternity,but perhaps they could post these after the event and maybe organise other future non-cycling related sporting activities on a personal e-mail level.

Kevin
we are all allowed our opinions- that is one of the beauties of the website forum. Personally I think not talking about non cycling issues is not going to going to make attendances at club events any better - it is still dialogue between club members.
Also I believe that as long as people are paid up members then they should be allowed to post what ever they want ) as long as it is clean and reasonably sensible ) and as long as it keeps the forum active !
It'll be interesting to monitor the level of postings and non posting visits to each of the different topics - cycling related or otherwise.

I'm now going to lie low while there is a backlash of opinion from those I know will not agree with me !!!

Well said Anthony,we should be able to descuss whatever we like on here. Like Nolegs, he comes out with some right S*** and no one says any thing about that!

So I'd like to say ******** ****** **** ***** and ****to the ***** and a big *****.

Interesting observations ...

Just looked at the general list ... there are only 8 to 10 regular attendees on Sunday club runs , but look how many visits on the site !!

Also - what has word association or favourite songs got to do with either the club OR even what has it got to do with sport !!!

Anthony Vallario wrote

Kevin
we are all allowed our opinions- that is one of the beauties of the website forum. Personally I think not talking about non cycling issues is not going to going to make attendances at club events any better - it is still dialogue between club members.
Also I believe that as long as people are paid up members then they should be allowed to post what ever they want ) as long as it is clean and reasonably sensible ) and as long as it keeps the forum active !
It'll be interesting to monitor the level of postings and non posting visits to each of the different topics - cycling related or otherwise.

I'm now going to lie low while there is a backlash of opinion from those I know will not agree with me !!!

What's even sadder is that it is 7.00 a.m. and I'm on the computer while watching Big Brother

I got to get a job !!

Oops. Looks like I started something here.

Anyway my thoughts on the matter are that the website forum is that it is a forum for 'general discussion', hence the title. I believe that this forum acts as the repository for the chat and banter that exists between memebers in much the same way as Ewenny cafe on a Saturday, and as such is not restricted to discussions on cycling. To make it so would be a detriment to the health of this forum.

As a club with a fairly strong running contingent it is natural that the sport of running would crop up in discussion sooner or later. By Kevins logic am I not allowed to discuss the benefits of cross training, or going to the gym?

However, Kevin does raise a good point in that, is the running undermining the Sunday club runs? Should we give publicity to an event which detracts members from club runs which as Kevin points out are always in need of support? I suppose the answer to this comes down to a consensus of club members.

Discuss. If you can be bothered.

dun forget about the track sessions in the night you can attend that to get numbers up and at the same time spin your legs after the run

I'm glad others have replied coz I didn't want any personal conflict between myself and Anthony,but the fact remains that organising to meet on a club run day on a club website(even if it was a seperate cycle ride) should not be happening.I realise that those who are running on Sunday would not attend the club ride anyway but to advertise the fact is wrong.I agree that as a general discussion forum it's open for general dicussion and as I stated earlier I am all to happy to read about other peoples sporting acheivements(after the event),but for those of you who belong to a running club and using this forum to organise your meetings,do you wear ptwcc kit to run in?So I don't think it's the website committee you need to approach but the sponsors themselves.While I'm on,the present Mrs Rattenbury and the girls will be walking in that direction on Sunday,so if you're still looking for company Athony, Helen said they'd be happy to walk along beside you.

There are a couple things to consider here I think. Sunday club runs haven't been particularly well patronised for the last 2 years, often discussed often with no difinitive reason as to why this is the case. Dai is doing a first class job and uses this platform to good effect keeping everyone informed.
The other issue is how the forum should be used by all those that are elligible. Personally I believe that the more the site is used the better and the club has more vibrancy as a result. We continue to attract new members and being able to look in on whats hot and whats not via the club site is invaluable.
Don't forget that the site is moderated with Alf doing an excellent job. I am sure that none of us would welcome censorship because a topic may be perceived as being non cycling pc

It's not that it's non cycling pc but that it's non cycling club run pc. Certain people know how it feels when a club run is disrupted and thats why almost every club run in the year leading up to the change of captainship ended up going to the Ewenny cafe.I'll say it again and this time praps I'll be understood,I'm not against people discussing any subject on this forum but I do disagree with the forum being used to organise non ptwcc club meetings on a ptwcc forum. Say porthcawl 'till after the event

The answer probably lies in the Clubs Articles of Association. Look to those and it will tell you how this forum should best serve the club and membership.

Kevin
while I understand your concerns, by your logic, do you then suggest that any non cycling talk in Ewenny caff on a Saturday should be banned ??
Or while we are riding the bikes... not that I have the breath to talk -As regards the club runs, the attendance has gone UP over the last three years -FACT !

Isaac Height wrote

It's not that it's non cycling pc but that it's non cycling club run pc. Certain people know how it feels when a club run is disrupted and thats why almost every club run in the year leading up to the change of captainship ended up going to the Ewenny cafe.I'll say it again and this time praps I'll be understood,I'm not against people discussing any subject on this forum but I do disagree with the forum being used to organise non ptwcc club meetings on a ptwcc forum. Say porthcawl 'till after the event

This is all getting a bit out of shape . It's just the case of undermining the club captains good work by inciting mutiny on the clubs own website.How do you think it looks when you read that at least 5 potential club ride attendies are definately not going to be at the Plazza at 10.00am,it's already a thankless task and I could imagine the feeling of "is it worth the bother".This is the fourth time i've said this so I'll speak a little slower,DON'T USE THIS FORUM TO DISRUPT THE SUNDAY CLUB RIDES.

This is all getting a bit out of shape . It's just the case of undermining the club captains good work by inciting mutiny on the clubs own website.How do you think it looks when you read that at least 5 potential club ride attendies are definately not going to be at the Plazza at 10.00am,it's already a thankless task and I could imagine the feeling of "is it worth the bother".This is the fourth time i've said this so I'll speak a little slower,DON'T USE THIS FORUM TO DISRUPT THE SUNDAY CLUB RIDES.

i'm not suggesting that people should do a running race instead of cycling ! I am just taking part in a discussion in which I am interested with fellow clubmates.

Do you really think some of these five people would have been on the club run if this thread had not been posted ?

And you haven't answered the previous questions ... do we censor all conversations
At the Caff ?
At club night??
On the bike ???
Maybe next time I have ... lets think ... say work for a fellow club member that must be done on a Sunday ...I refuse to give that work to a club member so that club member doesn't miss the club run !!

Can I also point out it works both ways ... that there are many Running races where I encourage people to come join us at the plaza ! In fact I am working quietly on two persons who are VERY elite runners !!